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  • ImageMihies
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    5 days ago

    It’s always like that, EU members, specially those bordering with a candidate country or those feeling threatened, blackmail the shit out of them. But Ukraine is a huge market, plenty of rebuilding once the war ends and also a buffer zone between Russia and EU.

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      5 days ago

      None of those cards trump a single member state whose agriculture industry is threatened by Ukraine. Ukraine already „sold” their construction contracts as a part of earlier weapons deals. Ukraine joining EU would also mean that there’s less buffer between EU and Russia, not more. Do we want to go to war because EU defence clauses are stronger than NATO ones? Plenty of countries are thinking about this too.

      Western countries like Germany would enjoy another country to do a brain drain on but that’s only a handful of votes.

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        Do we want to go to war because EU defence clauses are stronger than NATO ones?

        We are already at war, a half assed one though. If Ukraine falls, it’s bad or worse news for us. And the world.

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          5 days ago

          As Pole, I agree that we’re at war already. Someone in Portugal or Ireland might have vastly different opinion however. EU, which is a trade union first and foremost, is so big that there’s not enough unifying interest in defence to use it as an argument for Ukraine’s accession and for some it’s an argument against it. If Ukraine is looking for a military alliance it’d be best to look for allies who are existentially threatened by their demise - Nordics and other ex-Soviet states, and that should happen outside of EU frameworks to be worth something IMO.